Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running
Two old friends and former college runners talk about what’s happening in the world of distance running.
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4 days ago
4 days ago
50 min
In episode 103 Matt and Dave catch up on the start of high school cross-country season: coaching logistics, parent expectations at meets, team growth, and memorable anecdotes about athletes and families.They also review recent elite track action, including Ethan Strand’s upset in Poland, Jakob Ingebrigtsen’s comeback, standout performances across the Diamond League, and two new world records.

Aug 16, 2026
Aug 16, 2026
1 hr 10 min
On this Steep Ravine episode Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank sit down with Jeff Atkinson to trace his early life from Manhattan Beach junior lifeguard to Stanford freshman runner. Jeff shares candid memories of family, loss, unexpected recruiting moments, Kinney/Foot Locker nationals, training summers, injuries, and the shift from cross-country to middle-distance racing.
This is the first part of a two-episode conversation covering Jeff’s formative years and the choices that set him on the path to elite competition.

Aug 2, 2026
Aug 2, 2026
1 hr 3 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank recap a packed episode covering their Tillamook cross‑country training camp, Josh Kerr’s mile world record in London, and standout moments from the US Championships and Commonwealth Games.They discuss race tactics, surprise winners, rising stars, and notable performances, then close with reflections on Mary Cain’s book and a promising high‑school talent. Brief, candid, and full of running insight.

Jul 17, 2026
Jul 17, 2026
1 hr 32 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank mark the Steep Ravine Podcast's 100th episode with special guest Chris Capeau. Chris shares his story of perseverance to become the first in his family to graduate from college, to realize his dream job as a track coach, and to prevail through the extraordinary transition from high school coach to coach of the generational talent, Cooper Lutkenhaus.
The wide-ranging conversation covers coaching philosophy, gut coaching decisions, and preparing and protecting a teenage athlete who found himself amidst the world's very best.

Jul 9, 2026
Jul 9, 2026
1 hr 16 min
Dave thrives in France and Spain for three-and-a-half-weeks despite travel delays, wrong connections, three emergency-room visits, stitches, and dental work.
He still attended the Paris Diamond League, sat with Evan Jager, drank a beer with Andrew Coscoran, watched record-setting races, enjoyed local food and wine, did some epic hikes and returned home to coaching and recovery.
Matt stayed home and did not go to the emergency room once.

Jun 14, 2026
Jun 14, 2026
58 min
Matt and Dave recap the NCAA Division I Track & Field Championships Car Talk style, as Dave drives from Eugene back to Portland. Listen in to get the skinny on the new 110M Hurdle world record, crazy mishaps in the 4x100 relay final, surprising tactics in the women's 10K Final, a notable disqualification. Plus other big things happening in the world of track and field.

Jun 1, 2026
Jun 1, 2026
53 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank recap a packed high-school track week, covering California and Oregon district and state meets, standout performances, and surprising results.They spotlight Mountainside athletes Lucas and Miranda, discuss training, injuries, race tactics, and memorable moments from sprinters to distance runners.The episode also previews NCAA regionals, shares coaching insights, and celebrates the highs and lows of the season.

May 19, 2026
May 19, 2026
44 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank chat about the last-minute excitement before Mountainside's district track meet, coaching strategies, and memorable athlete stories.
They recap college and pro meets (including Diamond League highlights), conference championship performances, and the road to the Oregon state meet at Hayward Field.
Interwoven with personal anecdotes about team logistics, parent support, food, and new favorite drinks, the episode blends practical coaching insight with lighthearted behind-the-scenes moments.

May 10, 2026
May 10, 2026
48 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank break down the astonishing London Marathon where two men ran under two hours, the role of shoes and strategy, and standout performances across the field.
They also cover Chico State's 5K conference championship ownage, Valerie Sion's wedding, NCAA and last-chance meet stories, local high school coaching wins, and upcoming pro meets and Diamond League events.

Apr 25, 2026
Apr 25, 2026
52 min
Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank sit down with Gary Walton to trace his journey from high‑school runner to UC Davis coach and founding dean of the Graduate School of Management. They discuss Walton’s coaching philosophy, the Sage's 10‑mile tradition, his 88‑mile endurance run, a dramatic Achilles injury and comeback, and later life passions like jazz saxophone and mentoring in Prague.
The episode highlights themes of leadership, balance, and the lasting impact a coach can have on athletes’ lives, showing how athletics can shape character and lifelong success.

More about Matt and Dave
Matt was a slightly-above-average 9:18 steeplechaser and XC team captain at UC Davis in the '80s. Dave was a "real deal" steeplechaser around the same time at Stanford. They met when Stanford traveled to Davis one year for the Aggie Invitational Cross Country race. Aggies and Cardinal gathered afterwards for beers at Mr. B's. Matt and Dave have been friends ever since.

