Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running

Two old friends and former college runners talk about what’s happening in the world of distance running.

Episodes

4 hours ago

52 min

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank break down Chicago Marathon highlights, including Galen Rupp’s remarkable 2:06:55 at age 40. Then they reflect on the Nuttycomb cross‑country results before diving into Dave's epic return to Crystal Springs.

4 hours ago

52 min

Sep 30, 2026

48 min

Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank dive into the Mountainside cross country season: expanding the coaching staff, managing a 65-person roster, picking 21 athletes for the Crystal Springs trip, handling injuries, and practical mileage progression for developing freshmen.They also recap highlights from the World Athletics Ultimate Championships and recent road-race events, touch on college and high-school meet schedules, and share alumni stories and team culture moments from a UC Davis gathering.

Sep 30, 2026

48 min

Sep 6, 2026

46 min

Matt and Dave recap the Brussels Diamond League meet, highlighting big performances, tactical race drama, some post race smack talk, and standout winners like Cameron Myers and Claudia Kazimierska.
They also praise FlowTrack's Athlete Lounge for solid meet coverage, side with Jakob on the pacer replacement drama, and catch up on Mountainside cross-country.

Sep 6, 2026

46 min

Aug 27, 2026

50 min

In episode 103 Matt and Dave catch up on the start of high school cross-country season: coaching logistics, parent expectations at meets, team growth, and memorable anecdotes about athletes and families.They also review recent elite track action, including Ethan Strand’s upset in Poland, Jakob Ingebrigtsen’s comeback, standout performances across the Diamond League, and two new world records.

Aug 27, 2026

50 min

Aug 16, 2026

1 hr 10 min

On this Steep Ravine episode Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank sit down with Jeff Atkinson to trace his early life from Manhattan Beach junior lifeguard to Stanford freshman runner. Jeff shares candid memories of family, loss, unexpected recruiting moments, Kinney/Foot Locker nationals, training summers, injuries, and the shift from cross-country to middle-distance racing.
This is the first part of a two-episode conversation covering Jeff’s formative years and the choices that set him on the path to elite competition.

Aug 16, 2026

1 hr 10 min

Aug 2, 2026

1 hr 3 min

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank recap a packed episode covering their Tillamook cross‑country training camp, Josh Kerr’s mile world record in London, and standout moments from the US Championships and Commonwealth Games.They discuss race tactics, surprise winners, rising stars, and notable performances, then close with reflections on Mary Cain’s book and a promising high‑school talent. Brief, candid, and full of running insight.

Aug 2, 2026

1 hr 3 min

Jul 17, 2026

1 hr 32 min

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank mark the Steep Ravine Podcast's 100th episode with special guest Chris Capeau. Chris shares his story of perseverance to become the first in his family to graduate from college, to realize his dream job as a track coach, and to prevail through the extraordinary transition from high school coach to coach of the generational talent, Cooper Lutkenhaus.
The wide-ranging conversation covers coaching philosophy, gut coaching decisions, and preparing and protecting a teenage athlete who found himself amidst the world's very best.

Jul 17, 2026

1 hr 32 min

Jul 9, 2026

1 hr 16 min

Dave thrives in France and Spain for three-and-a-half-weeks despite travel delays, wrong connections, three emergency-room visits, stitches, and dental work.
He still attended the Paris Diamond League, sat with Evan Jager, drank a beer with Andrew Coscoran, watched record-setting races, enjoyed local food and wine, did some epic hikes and returned home to coaching and recovery.
Matt stayed home and did not go to the emergency room once.

Jul 9, 2026

1 hr 16 min

Jun 14, 2026

58 min

Matt and Dave recap the NCAA Division I Track & Field Championships Car Talk style, as Dave drives from Eugene back to Portland. Listen in to get the skinny on the new 110M Hurdle world record, crazy mishaps in the 4x100 relay final, surprising tactics in the women's 10K Final, a notable disqualification. Plus other big things happening in the world of track and field.

Jun 14, 2026

58 min

Jun 1, 2026

53 min

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank recap a packed high-school track week, covering California and Oregon district and state meets, standout performances, and surprising results.They spotlight Mountainside athletes Lucas and Miranda, discuss training, injuries, race tactics, and memorable moments from sprinters to distance runners.The episode also previews NCAA regionals, shares coaching insights, and celebrates the highs and lows of the season.

Jun 1, 2026

53 min

More about Matt and Dave

Matt was a slightly-above-average 9:18 steeplechaser and XC team captain at UC Davis in the '80s. Dave was a "real deal" steeplechaser around the same time at Stanford. They met when Stanford traveled to Davis one year for the Aggie Invitational Cross Country race. Aggies and Cardinal gathered afterwards for beers at Mr. B's. Matt and Dave have been friends ever since. 

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