Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running
Two old friends and former college runners talk about what’s happening in the world of distance running.
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Episodes

Apr 20, 2026
Apr 20, 2026
42 min
Matt and Dave recap a packed weekend of track and field: the Boston Marathon’s thrilling finishes, standout American performances, and veteran runners making headlines.They also cover major collegiate meets including the Brian Clay Invitational and Mt. SAC, highlight record-breaking efforts and emerging NCAA stars, and share personal stories from past races and coaching updates.

Apr 14, 2026
Apr 14, 2026
46 min
Matt and Dave trade stories from the high school track circuit — weather, PRs, coaching tweaks, and standout performances at local meets.
They chat about some Arcadia Invitational highlights, review the Australian national championships, spotlight a rising Australian sprint star, and tease ideas for the podcast's 100th episode.

Apr 5, 2026
Apr 5, 2026
53 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank catch up on life in Napa—Matt describes swapping Roundup for sheep, cultivating and rolling the vineyard, and shares small‑town farming stories.
They also break down recent track & field highlights: Shelby Hillahan’s 10K attempt, Kai Robinson and Woody Kincaid’s duel, Jane Hedengren’s NCAA‑level 10K, Cooper Lutkenhaus’s 800m world indoor win at 17, Stanford meet breakouts, college and high‑school results, coaching updates, and upcoming meets.

Mar 23, 2026
Mar 23, 2026
52 min
Matt and Dave interview Gary Towne, longtime Chico State cross country and track coach, about his 30-year career building a nationally competitive distance program and the culture behind sustained success.Gary discusses recruiting, athlete development, training philosophy, memorable races, alumni support, and the programs remarkable consistency, including a decades-long streak of conference 5K winners.

Mar 17, 2026
Mar 17, 2026
45 min
In this episode Matt and Dave speak with Peter Goldmacher about the Thousand Mile Club, a running program at San Quentin where incarcerated men train to run a marathon and find purpose, community, and rehabilitation.They discuss the club’s impact, coaching practices, the documentary 26.2 to Life, sponsor support, and how running helps transform lives both inside and beyond the prison walls.

Mar 8, 2026
Mar 8, 2026
1 hr 2 min
Episode 88 of the Steep Ravine Podcast features Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank talking with Brad Barquist about his running journey from Bellevue and Interlake High School to the University of Michigan and a professional career with Mizuno. They cover his rapid rise in high school and college, coaching relationships, and memorable PRs and All‑American performances.
The conversation culminates with Brad’s dramatic making of the 1996 U.S. Olympic 10,000m team — training in Georgia’s heat, battling Achilles issues, and rallying through the trials.

Mar 1, 2026
Mar 1, 2026
1 hr 7 min
On this episode of Steep Ravine, hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank sit down with legendary coach and former University of Oregon runner Pat Tyson. They cover his time as a teammate and roommate of Steve Prefontaine, the famous "Oregon system" of training, and stories from NCAA cross-country championships.
The conversation also explores Tyson’s coaching career — building exceptional high school programs at Shoreline and Mead, his long-term philosophy of consistency and belief, and his current work developing talent at Gonzaga as the team prepares for the track season and new conference challenges.

Feb 23, 2026
Feb 23, 2026
57 min
Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank welcome coach Chris Johnson of Siuslaw High School to discuss his 31-year career, the program’s state championship success, and memorable local stories from Florence, Oregon.
The episode also covers major track news: Keely Hodgkinson’s World Record 1:54.87 indoor 800m, Tshepiso Masalela’s controversial 1500m disqualification, youngster Sam Ruthe's U20 dominance in his native Australia, Ethan Shuley's outta-nowhere 2:07 Osaka Marathon finish, fast college DMRs, and standout meets from Boston to Arkansas.

Feb 17, 2026
Feb 17, 2026
42 min
Matt Wilkinson and Dave Friend break down a whirlwind of indoor track action since the Millrose Games, covering standout meets at the Husky Classic, JDL Sound Running and Boston University’s Valentine's Day Invitational.
Highlights include Femke Bol’s surprise sub-2:00 800 debut, multiple collegiate PRs and record attempts, fast pro miles (including a 3:45 American indoor run), and grassroots racing stories that show rising talent and deep fields across events.

Feb 9, 2026
Feb 9, 2026
48 min
Matt and Dave recap their Millrose Games weekend — fast races, tactical thrills, and memorable meetups. They cover Cole Hocker’s smart two‑mile win, Cam Myers’ breakout mile, Ellie St. Pierre’s comeback, and Colin Sahlman’s record indoor 800, plus behind‑the‑scenes stories from New York and Boston. Between snowbound visits with coaches, surprise run‑ins with athletes, and infield VIP moments, the episode mixes race analysis with travel anecdotes and the friendships that make the sport special.

More about Matt and Dave
Matt was a slightly-above-average 9:18 steeplechaser and XC team captain at UC Davis in the '80s. Dave was a "real deal" steeplechaser around the same time at Stanford. They met when Stanford traveled to Davis one year for the Aggie Invitational Cross Country race. Aggies and Cardinal gathered afterwards for beers at Mr. B's. Matt and Dave have been friends ever since.

